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Post by shoutforjoy on Sept 15, 2010 8:00:10 GMT
Hi Came across this on Ebay: cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300460507644It's a new one on me. Has anyone come across it before? Does it work? Clearly it's not going to solve the problems in your auto box in the long term but it might be a useful short-term fix as most auto box repairs don't come cheap. |
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Post by clambod on Sept 15, 2010 9:22:12 GMT
that's a new one on me. Might not do fora mini as the gearbox runs in the engine oil. I don't know what it would do to the rest of the engine.
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Post by shoutforjoy on Sept 15, 2010 10:35:03 GMT
I did wonder as I thought you should avoid engine or gearbox additives for that reason. It's advertised as being for a Mini though. I've queried it with the vendor and asked the same question on another forum - I'll let you all know the outcome.
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Post by (minisniper) on Sept 15, 2010 18:39:22 GMT
It's new to me never heard of it because and like you I've been told not to use any type of additive in the engine/gearbox. Will wait for the next update  |
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Post by notamini on Sept 16, 2010 2:18:03 GMT
Put it in mine about 2 years ago. It didn't make hardly a bit of difference. To me, a waste of time and money.
No, no, no. It is not "for Mini" it is for any auto trans using reg auto trans fluid and not for our oil trans.
Honda also frowns on the use of this item. Personally, I love Lucas aditives for all my N. American autos.
I just took a gamble with my AA type A auto since I plan on a rebuild anyway.
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Post by Joloke on Sept 16, 2010 9:38:20 GMT
Never Ever put Transmission Slip into a Mini Auto that stuff is meant as an Additive for Dexron ATF not OIL!!! It more likely to make your Transmission Slip  and if you had a guarentee on a rebuilt transmission the transmission specialist would no doubt be within their rights not to repair the transmission under warrenty due to that additive being added thus causing possible damage Hey is there anyway whe can do a sticky thread Warning Members never ever to add any form of stop slip?  This question keeps comming up and we have to give the same answer every single time so if it was a sticky nobody would need to ask again  Sorted |
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Post by shoutforjoy on Sept 16, 2010 14:24:41 GMT
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your comments (I've had the ones here, some on another forum and 1 or 2 PM's too). It's been a bit difficult seperating fact from opinion, few people have any experience or evidence at all.
The vendor that I contacted has not got back to me so I have contacted the manufacturers to get their thoughts. I will add these when they get back me.
Here's a quick summary of what I've found out so far.
I've found a few people who have used this in their engines (including notamini above). They reported that it did not seem to make any difference, detrimental or otherwise, to the performance of their auto gearbox or engines. I've not yet found anyone who has used it that has encountered the huge problems that we are led to believe will occur. I'd be interested to know if any of you have.
This leads me to conclude that it doesn't work, which has got to be the best reason for not using it!
Of course any damage caused in this way could take some time to come to light, so may not be immediately obvious.
I've also found someone who regularly uses slick50 (an engine additive) and has also used Wynn's Stop Leak (to fix an engine oil leak) before - again with no apparent problems to either engine or gearbox.
There are also people who've used engine flush to clean out the oilways - another big "no no" in the world of automatics - again with no problems reported.
The engine/gearbox experts that have expressed an opinion are concerned about the damage to an engine that may occur when you run a transmission addiitive through it (and vice versa). None offered any evidence - just opinion.
Without experience and/or evidence I don't think that we can say for sure that using transmission or engine additives will damage your auto box and/or engine but that it's not recommended because it has the potential to do some damage.
And in any case Stop Slip doesn't work!
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Post by shoutforjoy on Sept 16, 2010 16:15:37 GMT
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Post by clambod on Sept 17, 2010 6:49:42 GMT
Interesting. I would still be wary of using it though
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Post by shoutforjoy on Sept 17, 2010 7:30:54 GMT
I think I would be wary too but then my box is fine at the moment.
If my auto box was playing up I might be more tempted to give it a shot. It does say in the specification that it's fine to be used in ATF or engine oil so shouldn't damage the engine or gearboox.
£20 for a bottle of oil additiive that just might work or £650 for a reconditioned gearbox?
If it did work you'd probably have to use it every time you changed your oil though.
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Post by clambod on Sept 17, 2010 8:52:40 GMT
like you I'd only use it as a last resort when you've nothing really to lose. Eventually of course, it would have to go to the gearbox mender
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Post by kalkat on Sept 28, 2010 15:49:18 GMT
I wouldn't trust ANY additive for whatever purpose!
Slick50 has been known to prematurely cause wear problems in engines - it 'glasses' over hone marks preventing the retention of oil
Most 'stop leak' additives contain chemicals to make seals swell.... not a good idea if the now stiff seal won't let a valve open at the correct pressure
Aaaaand - *takes a breath* Minis are unique in the engine and gearbox sharing the oil. What would work in an engine........
Emma
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Post by Joloke on Sept 28, 2010 19:06:15 GMT
I wouldn't trust ANY additive for whatever purpose! Slick50 has been known to prematurely cause wear problems in engines - it 'glasses' over hone marks preventing the retention of oil Most 'stop leak' additives contain chemicals to make seals swell.... not a good idea if the now stiff seal won't let a valve open at the correct pressure Aaaaand - *takes a breath* Minis are unique in the engine and gearbox sharing the oil. What would work in an engine........ Emma Thanks Emma somebody agrees with me  Ive seen how many problems and also possible damage can occur when using even synthetic oil or additives I think the premature Death of the Transmission on Boris was caused due to the garage we bought him from using "Engine Flush" and then filling his Engine/Box with Synthetic Oil of the wrong grade If a transmission is slipping though an oil change may improve things it normally is a cry for help on the transmissions part requesting a rebuild of some degree If anybody wants to use "Magic" Transmission Fix that apparently stops slip ;D Dont say we didnt warn you Again thanks Emma for backing my concerns on such a product Please Note Magic AP Auto Transmission Stop Slip Fluid is often found under a Brightly Coloured Mushroom next to the lepricorn ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by kalkat on Sept 28, 2010 20:15:21 GMT
Magic AP Auto Transmission Stop Slip Fluid is often found under a Brightly Coloured Mushroom next to the lepricorn ................. yes, that's right - right next to the new smoke for Lucas parts  |
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Post by notamini on Sept 29, 2010 16:01:06 GMT
I dunno, is it street legal or only available down your local rabbit hole?  |
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Post by mra-minis on May 11, 2012 12:53:04 GMT
You might also need to declare it if the plod stopped you |
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Post by mra-minis on Nov 11, 2015 3:46:47 GMT
I wouldn't trust ANY additive for whatever purpose! Slick50 has been known to prematurely cause wear problems in engines - it 'glasses' over hone marks preventing the retention of oil Most 'stop leak' additives contain chemicals to make seals swell.... not a good idea if the now stiff seal won't let a valve open at the correct pressure Aaaaand - *takes a breath* Minis are unique in the engine and gearbox sharing the oil. What would work in an engine........ Emma Hi Emma, The stop leak stuff, works by swelling uo the seals, in all probability the same as a cap full of brake fluid would, in any case it actually softens the rubber or synthetic elastomer.... |
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Post by 69hcode on Dec 18, 2015 21:56:15 GMT
I put the lucas trans stuff in my mini about a thousand miles ago. I was planning on rebuilding it anyway. Had trouble going into gear when cold and squelching when shifting into 4th gear. And a good oil leak from the torque converter. Goes into gear fine and shifts smooth now. Oil leak was a puddle wherever I shut the car off. Now just a couple little drops the size of a dime. Sometimes no drops at all.
I'm now looking at picking up a 1992 Japanese spec motor and trans with no head. Owner bought a rebuild kit and bands for it decided to go manual. He said it would go into gear if you held it between 3rd and 4th so might have been a cable adjustment. Either way, I'm going to rebuild it all before I put it in my car.
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Post by Stu on Dec 19, 2015 18:23:01 GMT
Sound like useful stuff for a short term fix assuming all seals and oil rings are to be replaced on a pending overhaul.
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Post by richard1 on Feb 28, 2016 12:46:38 GMT
Those work as Martin said by swelling the seals. they also clean off any varnish that has accumulated on the discs. They are very useful, and I have one that has saved many transmissions, including my first Grand Cherokee and my current BMW. My only hesitation is in the Mini, but not because of the actual active ingredient (a combination of Esters), but because it is diluted in ATF. Probably wouldn't hurt, but in general I don't like ATF in the engine.
It isn't sold pure at retail because you only need 0.8 oz of concentrate for an average transmission (6 liters or so). People would tend to put in too much. Also by the time you put less than an ounce in a package and run it through retail, people would probably balk at the price and question how that small a package could make a difference. I buy it by the pail ($400 wholesale) and dilute for retail.
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